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« on: February 12, 2008, 12:27:26 AM »

Hi,

are there any plans to support Kolab 2.2?
I would like to set it up on gentoo as soon as it is released.
I think things are getting easier because there are no special patches
for postfix and cyrus as far as I have read the manual.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 07:55:09 AM »

Yes, absolutely!

I have been away on other projects for quite some time now but there is no question that Kolab2/Gentoo will get attention again.

Let me give you some idea why there is currently no visible movement for Kolab2/Gentoo:

While Kolab2/Gentoo-2.1 worked it has also shown a number of really severe drawbacks.

The upstream Kolab developers choose OpenPKG as the base distribution for Kolab. This was about having a very well defined (and thus restricted) environment that makes it easy to code on the server. Gentoo on the other hand is all about choice. And both systems don't match very well together.

A resulting problem of the OpenPKG choice has been the coding style within the Kolab project. The choice of the restricted OpenPKG system allowed the developers to not care about some common coding practices that would have allowed to easily transfer the Kolab specific packages to other distributions.

This is a thing that I fixed partially in Kolab CVS upstream (2 out of 4 packages). The full set of fixes will probably only be ready with 2.3.

Another problem is the way the Kolab configuration is being created. This does not work the way I did it in Kolab2/Gentoo-2.1. On Kolab2/OpenPKG you are not free to choose the versions of the component that form the Kolab server. On Kolab2/Gentoo you can but that disrupts the configuration system. I'm writing a new configuration tool here that allows to write configuration depending on the installed versions. This will also still take a while.

I am aware that the current 2.1 version would already need some care and fixes but currently I'd rather like to spend time on the required upstream things before the overlay moves again. As mentioned before it will probably take another year or more in order to get this into reasonable shape for Gentoo. But there is no question that I'll invest the time even if there are times where I may be quiet Smiley

Cheers,

Gunnar
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 09:38:28 PM »

Hi, any news or roadmap? Smiley
I've read on the Kolab Wiki that it is underway for Kolab 2.2
but no timeline...

thanks, T.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 07:21:07 AM »

A timeline will be hard to stick to at the moment.

There is definitely progress. All my current commits to Horde CVS (http://lists.horde.org/archives/cvs/) are targeted towards Kolab2/Gentoo-2.2. In addition any commit to p@rdalys (http://github.com/wrobel/pardalys/tree/master) is in fact Kolab2/Gentoo-2.2. Some commits to the overlay have been made, too (http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/kolab/timeline?changeset=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss).

The main part of the work in the last month has been about getting the Horde packages into shape for a decent release scheme so that I can easily create packages for Gentoo. A good deal of that work has been completed and my focus now shifts to finalizing p@rdalys (meaning the Kolab2/Gentoo server configuration). Once that is done I can start releasing test versions.

So there is hope such test versions arrive in the middle of september.

And once I'm there I throw a party Smiley as this will allow me a sane development path for the future and hopefully bring the users a lot more stability.

Cheers,

Gunnar
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 08:08:16 PM »

Hi,

that's great news!

If you roll it an throw the party, let me know!
Let me know, if it'spublic and I'll try to join it and brings some contributions Smiley

thanks, T.
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